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#1 Jan Tore Soerensen

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 07:59 AM

Good afternoon!

 

I am a huge fan of creative cinematography. Obviously we create images that first and foremost enhance our story, but personally, I like to be creative with it.

 

Now after watching AHS, using the roll-axis has been stuck on my mind for a while, but as far as I can tell, this is usually done by huge heads on cranes. We have a Ronin, but it doesn't seem like we can actually controll this axis. 

 

Any ideas from the seasoned cinematographers in here? Also, is there an industry name for these shots?

 

Thanks!


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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 12:29 PM

Are you referring to a Dutch or Tilted Angle?  There are Dutch heads that can do that like the Cartoni.  If you don't need to tilt in mid-shot, there are the smaller, flatter Tango heads that can go on top of a regular head.


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#3 Jan Tore Soerensen

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 03:39 PM

Are you referring to a Dutch or Tilted Angle?  There are Dutch heads that can do that like the Cartoni.  If you don't need to tilt in mid-shot, there are the smaller, flatter Tango heads that can go on top of a regular head.

Yeah - dutch or tilted, but while moving and pushing in. I guess that is something I would need a crane or something like a Shotover gimbal for?


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 04:02 PM

No, if it's just a dolly in with a dutch tilt happening, you can just use a dutch head under the camera like a Cartoni dutch head:

https://www.cartoni....40s-dutch-head/


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#5 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:02 PM

An underslung head with a third axis to control roll like a Cartoni Lamba or Ronford F7 is not too expensive to rent either.
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#6 Jan Tore Soerensen

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 07:34 AM

No, if it's just a dolly in with a dutch tilt happening, you can just use a dutch head under the camera like a Cartoni dutch head:

https://www.cartoni....40s-dutch-head/

That seems like a very good solution! Thanks.

An underslung head with a third axis to control roll like a Cartoni Lamba or Ronford F7 is not too expensive to rent either.

Great suggestions! Thanks :)


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