Jump to content


Photo

Meopta Meoclub 16 Electronic 2


  • Please log in to reply
8 replies to this topic

#1 Luigi Castellitto

Luigi Castellitto
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 115 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Campobasso (Italy)

Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:59 PM

I know this projector has a feature: it run at 25fps instead of 24fps.
I don't know why they made this choice, but... this 25 fps could affect the viewing of mute films and audio films with magnetic and optical audio? And of amateur movies shot at 24fps?
Is it influential?
Thank you.

  • 0

#2 Mark Dunn

Mark Dunn
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2394 posts
  • Other
  • London

Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:04 AM

Film for PAL TV was invariably shot at 25.

You probably wouldn't notice the difference unless you switched between speeds whilst listening to the same reel- the sound pitch is a bit higher, that's all.


Edited by Mark Dunn, 27 October 2017 - 05:06 AM.

  • 0

#3 Luigi Castellitto

Luigi Castellitto
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 115 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Campobasso (Italy)

Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:38 AM

But why Meopta choose that format, even a risk of having a higher audio or other problem? When the standard of all 16mm was 24fps?


  • 0

#4 Brian Drysdale

Brian Drysdale
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 5060 posts
  • Cinematographer

Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:13 AM

It was past of the soviet block at that time, so the reasons could be related to 16mm film production there and the type of films they were screening.


  • 0

#5 Luigi Castellitto

Luigi Castellitto
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 115 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Campobasso (Italy)

Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:22 AM

Yes, the projector is Czechoslovakian, but I don't remember a standard other than 24fps for 16mm in the Soviet block. I have to inform!


  • 0

#6 Mark Dunn

Mark Dunn
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2394 posts
  • Other
  • London

Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:52 AM

Look at this.

http://www.meoptahistory.com/?id=315

24/16 is the standard until 1965, everything after that is 25/18.


  • 0

#7 Luigi Castellitto

Luigi Castellitto
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 115 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Campobasso (Italy)

Posted 27 October 2017 - 01:29 PM

Maybe it was the only projector series with that fps.

But in demonstration videos that are on Youtube I don't see fast images or higher and distorted audio, it seems all right.


  • 0

#8 Brian Drysdale

Brian Drysdale
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 5060 posts
  • Cinematographer

Posted 27 October 2017 - 05:48 PM

You won't notice the difference, 24 fps film is shown all the time at 25fps on TV in Europe, What the actual running speed is can be different to the spec speed, projectors are often out and can be a frame slower in practice.


  • 0

#9 Luigi Castellitto

Luigi Castellitto
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 115 posts
  • Camera Operator
  • Campobasso (Italy)

Posted 28 October 2017 - 04:08 PM

True, Bryan, telecine scanning film in tv are from 24 to 25 fps.


  • 0


Willys Widgets

CineLab

Rig Wheels Passport

Ritter Battery

CineTape

Opal

Paralinx LLC

The Slider

Visual Products

FJS International, LLC

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Glidecam

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Abel Cine

Technodolly

Aerial Filmworks

Metropolis Post

Wooden Camera

Tai Audio

rebotnix Technologies

Rig Wheels Passport

Visual Products

CineTape

FJS International, LLC

The Slider

Metropolis Post

Aerial Filmworks

Glidecam

Tai Audio

Willys Widgets

Paralinx LLC

Wooden Camera

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

rebotnix Technologies

Abel Cine

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Technodolly

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

CineLab

Ritter Battery

Opal