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#1 goro toshima

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:14 PM

hi all,

 

i'm shooting a spot where we need to create a cloud of cheetos dust...idea is that a group of guys watch tv, eating cheetos. and they make a mess. scene ends with a huge cloud of cheeto dust

that fills room and falls to ground.

 

been trying to figure out ways to best make this happen...and have been thinking of obvious so far:

grounding up A LOT of cheetos and renting a couple big fans and blowing into room. but not sure if this is the best strategy...or maybe dumping from above with fans blowing?

 

does anybody have any experience and suggestions?

 

it would be greatly appreciated.

 

best.

goro


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#2 Samuel Berger

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 07:39 PM

Ah, special effects...What would Tsuburaya Eiji do? I think he'd make sure a lot of the dust is right in front of the lens, to give the illusion of volume. He did that with snow a lot. The finer dust would go in the front, and in the back you'd have something like this:

 

With orange dye added to the liquid.

 

It just has to look like Cheetos, it doesn't have to be Cheetos. But anyway, just a quick idea.


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#3 goro toshima

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 10:41 PM

Ah, special effects...What would Tsuburaya Eiji do? I think he'd make sure a lot of the dust is right in front of the lens, to give the illusion of volume. He did that with snow a lot. The finer dust would go in the front, and in the back you'd have something like this:

 

With orange dye added to the liquid.

 

It just has to look like Cheetos, it doesn't have to be Cheetos. But anyway, just a quick idea.

thanks, sam...great advice. and that blower looks really useful for the purpose....


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#4 Ryan Constantino

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:13 PM

Are you strictly limited to having to do the effect in camera? Or do you have some flexibility in post production to get it done? Reason I ask is because there are a few different way you could go about doing it. 

 

In camera 100%: What about getting some orange chalk and rubbing it onto a chalkboard and then cleaning it up with the erasers and then smacking the dust in front of cam? Close so it looks like a plume of smoke? That could work. 

 

in camera compositing: You could shoot your own VFX plate kinda like this: https://www.actionvf...2-stock-footage use a strong backlight shoot on black and then composite it over your footage during the editing phase. The editor should be able to tint it orange and use a blending mode of "screen" so it becomes transparent over the footage. (or just buy a plate from the website i listed above or video copilot: https://www.videocopilot.net/products/action2/ )

 

100% VFX method: There are several programs that a VFX artist (and a smart individual watching youtube tutorials) could use to create a full smoke effect. Such programs are-

trapcode particular: https://www.redgiant...ode-particular/

FumeFX: http://www.afterworks.com/FumeFX.asp

Turbulence FD: https://www.jawset.com/

If you go this route, you would just need to make sure that if there is camera movement there is something that can be motion tracked. There are more out there too but of course require a VFX artist in post. 

 

Good luck!


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