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#1 Samuel Berger

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:58 AM

I haven't seen a lot of C200 talk on this forum so I thought I'd put this out there.

 

These are some professional videos made with the C200. My favourite one is "STICKY SITUATION". It's only one minute long and if you only watch one of these....make it that one. ;-)

 

 

 

 

https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/672743959

 

 

 

None of them are as nice as what the C300 Mark II can do, but what the cinematographers do with the camera is what makes the difference.


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#2 Giacomo Girolamo

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:29 AM

Hello Samuel, thanks for sharing!

 

I only can see the videos upload in vimeo from here, but beautiful cinematography and I agree, I love "sticky situation", great production work there with the sticky suit.

 

 

Bye!


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#3 Samuel Berger

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 04:03 PM

There's this, too, from Max Yuryev.

 

 

From the comments: "The biggest issue with this camera seems to be the lack of a 10 bit internal codec which you pointed out would kill off the C300 if Canon had it in the C200."

 

Interesting. He didn't like the Ursa Mini but he liked this.


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#4 Samuel Berger

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:47 PM

It's been out for some time now, has anyone from this forum had first hand experience with this camera?


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#5 Samuel Berger

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 10:16 PM

I guess no one here would've used it because it's not pro enough for the pros and it's too expensive for the hobbyists.


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#6 Samuel Berger

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 01:34 AM

By golly, someone please, please, PLEASE talk me out of buying a Canon C200! Seriously! HELP!


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#7 Tyler Purcell

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 02:23 AM

I mean it's not a "bad" camera in any way. You can shoot Canon Raw lite, which give you a beautiful 12 bit 422 signal @ 4k. You can shoot LongGOP for those interviews. It's got XLR inputs and built in filters and good/high ISO and a decent imager.

Honestly the only downside to the camera in my opinion is the codec issues and physical size. It's a worthless camera to "use" sadly. :(
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#8 Mark Kenfield

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 02:54 AM

With the autofocus capabilities (which I gather are basically the most advanced you can get at the moment), it seems like a fantastic, affordable B-camera to keep on the drone/gimbal permanently.

It's lacking too many of the usual things for A-camera work. But I think it's great, and the pictures I've seen so far look superb.


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#9 Samuel Berger

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:00 PM

It has the same sensor as the C300 Mark II. I think the consensus is that for indie filmmaking the C300 Mark II has no real advantage over the C200, it's only in broadcasting that the C300 Mark II has advantages.

 

The C300 Mark III is going to be announced in April for around $17000.


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#10 Mark Kenfield

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 03:01 AM

It has the same sensor as the C300 Mark II. I think the consensus is that for indie filmmaking the C300 Mark II has no real advantage over the C200, it's only in broadcasting that the C300 Mark II has advantages.

 

The C300 Mark III is going to be announced in April for around $17000.

I think 'consensus' is a bit of a stretch. For narrative filmmaking, timecode and PL mounts are very important features.


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#11 Samuel Berger

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 04:54 PM

I think 'consensus' is a bit of a stretch. For narrative filmmaking, timecode and PL mounts are very important features.

 
I meant that it was the consensus in the YouTube comparisons I watched, as well as their comments section. There are PL-to-EF adapters, just not the other way around, which is why I don't use my Ursa Mini 4K PL.
But as far as timecode goes, doesn't bother me one bit to use an external recorder.

 

The other issue is that Canon products devaluate over time so spending the extra dough on the C300 Mark II can cause...physical pain when the price goes down again. It was released at $16k, dropped down to $12k and then $10k. I imagine it will drop again after NAB.

 

 


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#12 Samuel Berger

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 05:16 PM

I'm pretty sure the FS7 isn't seen as in the same league as the C200, though. I don't think you can get that ubiquitous "milky white" look with anything other than a Canon.


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#13 Samuel Berger

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:39 PM

This video was shot at ISO 800 and the guy who made it primarily used Sigma 18-35 f1.8 and Canon 50mmf1.2. All interviews and indoor scenes were lit with Aputure & Fiilex leds. Outdoor B-Roll was mostly natural light.

 

 

This next video was shot on 10 Bit RAW, with Sigma 18-35 ART, EF 100-400 IS II, DJI Ronin M, ZOOM H4N, Edited in Davinci Resolve.

 

 

None of them are mine, I'm just sharing C200 samples.

 

Shot in Raw Light with Canon 50mm f/1.4 and Sigma 24-105mm

 


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#14 Samuel Berger

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 07:00 PM

The C200 is a thorn in my side. If it didn't exist I'd have already purchased an Ursa Mini Pro. But since it does exist, I have to wait until I sell my Arri 2C 2-perf camera to be able to afford the difference.

 

I like the C200 form factor a lot better than the UMP because the UMP is heavier and bulkier. The C200 is kind of like a Bell & Howell Filmo 70DR for the digital age...even though there's the odd EVF.

 

The C200 has perfect DPAF. No AF on the UMP.

 

Where the UMP is better than the C200 is in the fact that you can use a SSD recorder instead of the stupid internal CFast cards.The card slot door on the C200 prevents you from using a CFast-to-SSD adapter.  Also the UMP has proper internal recording codecs whereas the C200 requires an external Atomos Shogun Inferno to work well.


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#15 Marcel Zyskind

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 08:30 PM

Have you considered the Panasonic EVA-1?


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#16 Samuel Berger

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 01:19 PM

Have you considered the Panasonic EVA-1?

 

I looked at it and it's not really very interesting. It's also practically the same price as the C200 so there's no real reason to consider it.


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#17 Samuel Berger

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 12:27 AM

I really can't wait for NAB. Canon product prices always go down.

I think they screwed up with the C200 in a couple of ways. A single CFast card slot is simply not enough. Then there's the ridiculous lack of proper codecs.

Everything else, though, makes it the perfect camera for folks like me who would love to own a C300 Mark II but can't afford it.


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#18 Samuel Berger

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Posted 31 March 2018 - 03:16 PM

 

This could have been a bit shorter but it's extremely in-depth.


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#19 Samuel Berger

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 11:55 PM

Canon's return policy on this camera is that there is no return policy. Interesting, it makes me think they have no confidence in their product.


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#20 Samuel Berger

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 11:41 AM

So it seems the Cinematography.com forum has unequivocably rejected the Canon EOS C200. This is very telling. Professionals and hobbyists over here are ignoring a camera that was fairly hyped up on Youtube.

It's considered not as good as the C300 Mark II for the price, not professional enough, not even on the level of the FS7, overpriced due to costing more than the Ursa Mini Pro, and laughed at because of its codec or lack thereof.

 

If I buy this thing i'm going to be all alone in the forum Universe.


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