I’m trying to solve an issue with an animation stand camera, and I’m hoping some forum members might have insights that could help.
Oxberry animation camera
Posted 18 April 2018 - 09:27 PM
Posted 19 April 2018 - 10:35 AM
Pretty sure the shuttles are both Oxberry.
The optical printer shuttle is not compatible with the camera because the optical printer projector head had to take both 16mm and 35mm movements, so the cam displacement is different for 16mm and 35mm.
You can remove a registration pin and a take down pin on the camera gate or have it done. As long as you are using fresh raw stock, I would think it should be fine, ASSUMING you will still be shooting Standard 16mm images and not Super 16mm footage.
Your stand looks home-brewed; not unusual. Looks like a combination of Oxberry, maybe Norton and other manufacturers. Not a bad thing and not unusual, just custom made by someone to their working ideals.
You might be able to get a response from Oxberry themselves at http://www.oxberry.com/.
EDIT: Oh wow, I just looked harder at your camera body and it is a highly modifed B&H 2709! Your working movement might be a stock Oxberry with a modified fork for the drive cam.
Posted 19 April 2018 - 03:25 PM
Thanks for the reply Frank. It’s good to know those are both likely from Oxberry. I tried reaching out to them directly to inquire about the shuttles on their price list. Unfortunately I haven’t heard back.
Posted 19 April 2018 - 06:00 PM
You're welcome, Beau.
I have an Oxberry printer head with a 16mm gate (double perf with one pin removed) and a 35mm full aperture gate myself, but it looks like a match for the one you already have, so that wouldn't be of any use to you.
I built a 3K scanner about a decade ago with the parts to restore a series of Alice Guy Blache films from the 1890's thru the 1910's. I haven't touched it in years and its sitting in my basement, wrapped in plastic. Maybe I'll resurrect it one day, but probably not. It's just so slow, 1.5 seconds a frame and quite the pain to set up and run.
I know of a full-blown 16mm Oxberry Pro Animator Stand in Ohio that is disassembled and stored poorly in a shed. It is my ex-wife's stand (long story) and she would probably part with it if you are interested.
It has (or did have) pretty much everything, including the rotoscope projector.
Posted 20 April 2018 - 01:51 PM
It’s good to know that there are still full-blown Oxberry Pros out there (assembled or not). A road trip to Ohio would be quite the adventure. If I had the resources to make the journey I’d seriously consider it.
Posted 07 May 2018 - 12:54 PM
I'm sure you won't but if you reach a dead end with the oxberry (single perf) gate I'd be interested in buying it as I'm restoring an optical printer that uses oxberry movements. I only have 2 x 35mm and 1 x 16, so I really need a 16mm gate to complete the fucntionality. All the best with your project though.
Posted 07 May 2018 - 01:00 PM
BTW. The single perf shuttle I have is super 16mm a sis your from the photo. I am also really after standard 16mm gates BUT I think, or suspect that standard 16mm gates are always double perf. I havent seen any standard 16 gates that are single perf. People (as Frank mentions) usually take a pin out. I like the super gate because I'm doing exposures onto the soundtrack area but as long as your art work is masked you can crop the expose anyway, effectively acting like a standard gate.
Posted 07 May 2018 - 05:59 PM
Posted 08 May 2018 - 06:42 AM
That would be amazing Beau. If always feels a shame to separate parts out from machines. BUT, if this seems a useful opportunity to do this I would be eternally grateful. I'm after ANY oxberry gates. Also the projector head sprocket drives, esp for 35mm ( I only have 16mm ones) . Also rotoscope parts, relays lens mounts or parts, etc.