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#1 James Malamatinas

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 05:06 AM

I had a chance to see 'Once Upon A Time In The West' last night on a well worn 35mm print and it had me fascinated by the different types of marks you get with film, just a few I picked jup include;

  • cue marks
  • linear scratches down the film across rolls
  • wavering scatches down the film specific to a roll
  • fogging on the edge of the frame

I'd like to learn more about this, e.g. what the he colour of different types scratches means, and how to identify whether marks indicate an origin in the mag, lab or projector and so forth.  

Does anyone have any resources on this, possible categorising and listing the different types? Even better if there is pictures...



 


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#2 Phil Connolly

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 02:10 PM

The scratches in the print you saw would have all come from poor projection. Prints from the lab typically should be pristine and free of scratches. Mag scratches would for instance probably have prompted a reshoot or rescue with wet gate printing. 

 

I saw 'Once Upon A Time In The West'  in 35mm about 12 years ago (Curzon Mayfair) - it looked pretty good at the time. Its possible you've seen the same print with another 12 years of wear and damage.

 

Typically black scratches are on the base side of the print. Coloured scratches (normally) green are on the emulsion side of the print. The colour of emulsion scratches is dependant on the depth of scratches as they cut into the emulsion layer. Diagonal scratches come from badly setup long play platters. Typically scratches and general handling marks are worse around reel changes (every 20 mins or so).

 

You often get different scratches from change over houses - e.g two projectors are being used and one projector is good and the other is bad. you can have a situation where every odd or even reel is scratched. I've seen that some times. Also you get prints that are assembled from the best reels the studio has. So they may go through 10 damaged prints to put together 1 ok print. Which could result in very uneven looking prints. The UK 35mm prints of Bladerunner I've seen are  like this. Generally terrible but 1 or 2 reels that are somewhat ok. 

 

The source of scratches on projection are often due to either badly set up projection tension forcing parts of the film to rub against things. Also cleanliness - films shed and that gunk can build up in the projector gate and cause scratches. General dust and atmospheric dirt can also get on the print. 

 

Of course now film projection is so rare there are going to be less experienced projectionists around so damage is probably more likely. The Hateful 8, 70mm run had lots of problems due to inexpereinced operators running and ruining film

 

Really the booth needs to be a very clean room. If you've ever seen an IMAX film booth they are kept pristine and the image on screen is a testament to that. Its rare to see dirt and scratches in IMAX film projection 

 

In some cases when a print has been built up and broken down for projection many times - the ends get damaged and frames go missing. Eventually it can mean the change over cues get chopped off and projectionists make their own change over cues by scratching X's on the print or using a hole puncher. 

 

With good handling 35mm can look great and their isn't an excuse for scratches since they all generally come from poor film handling, poorly set up projection equipment and general booth cleanliness.  

 

Wading through www.film-tech.com can result in some insights - you'll have to search the archive though since they don't discuss film projection as much as they did. 


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Posted 08 May 2018 - 12:50 PM

Thanks for such a in-depth reply. Tons of interesting insights into the world of film projection which I never had much opportunity to experience first hand. 

I respect the love many people (myself included) hold for film projection with its unique aesthetic and charm however your post has really highlghted a large number of ways well calibrated digital projection helped improve the overall cinematic experience. 

I'm actually putting together a list of these kind of film imperfections as a reference guide that covers production, processing and projection so I may be tapping your knowledge in the future!  



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