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16mm 500T Pushed 2 Stops Canon Scoopic

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#1 Ryan Fleet

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 12:07 PM

I just got my Canon Scoopic 16 back from Bernie at Super16inc and I'm ready to shoot with it.

 

I've really wanted to test the Kodak 500T stock pushed 2 stops to 2000 but expose it at 1600 for a 1/3 overexposure. I'll be shooting downtown Buffalo, NY at night using street lamps and various city lights and really want to see how this performs. 

 

I have the original grey model scoopic 16 and from the manual, it says it is F stops not T stops and it's 24fps with 1/64 shutter. I have a sekonic L- 478D-U that I will use for metering. 

 

Can anyone give me any tips or let me know if I'm doing something wrong with how I'll be metering and pushing the film?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

-Ryan 


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#2 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 12:23 PM

Sounds OK to me, though I've never pushed any film in my life. I wouldn't expect the quietest, lowest-contrast images ever.


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#3 Karim D. Ghantous

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 03:28 AM

Eyes Wide Shut was pushed by two stops and that film looked great. At the time, Vision stocks were not nice when pushed, so they used EXR 5298. Vision3, particularly 500T, is terrific when underexposed compared to previous generations. I have seen 7219 pushed by one stop and it looks really nice. Two stops should not be a problem either.


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Posted 05 May 2018 - 06:25 PM

Sounds OK to me, though I've never pushed any film in my life. I wouldn't expect the quietest, lowest-contrast images ever.

 

Yeah, I'm not looking for something super clean looking. Just curious and want to see the grain and texture I can get with it. I want to shoot using available light at night and test it out for a possible upcoming project. 

 

 

Eyes Wide Shut was pushed by two stops and that film looked great. At the time, Vision stocks were not nice when pushed, so they used EXR 5298. Vision3, particularly 500T, is terrific when underexposed compared to previous generations. I have seen 7219 pushed by one stop and it looks really nice. Two stops should not be a problem either.

 

That's awesome! I haven't seen that film but I've been meaning to watch it. I'll have to check it out.

 

Thanks for the replies guys!


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#5 Karim D. Ghantous

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 07:56 PM

I forgot to give you the link the AC article, which I have posted online now about a dozen times:

 

https://theasc.com/m...9/sword/pg1.htm

 

I think you'll like it. :-)


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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:50 PM

please definitely post the results when you get them back from the lab. Be it a success or not it'd be great to see what shook out


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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:35 PM

Karim, thanks for the link Ill give it a read!

Robin - Ill definetly post the results. Unfortunately, Ive had a big set back. I decided to go with Cinelab and I shipped it out last Monday.

Cinelab received and signed for the film on Wednesday so I was excited to get the process moving I figure 7-14 days from last Wednesday I would see something.

Well today I got home from work and discovered a package for me. It was my film but In a different package than I sent it out in. The film seal was broken from when I sealed it after I finished shooting the roll and sent it off. I thought wow that was super quick to be processed. So I call Cinelab and they said yeah we got just your order form on Wednesday but no film....

So what happened was Fedex damaged my shipping package and the film got separated. And someone at FedEx decided to open my film and break the seal. Then they sent it back. Im very upset with FedEx. Its on a daylight spool so Im hoping they didnt take it out and unwind the film.

Im also kind of upset that Cinelab never contacted me about recieving a damaged package with only an order form and no film. The order form had all my contact information. Not even an email. When I called they knew exactly what package I was talking about too.

So anyway thats where I stand now. I re-sent it out today and it will arrive at Cinelab on Wednesday but then another 7-14 days +1-2 days for push processing according to their website.

I decided to have it pushed 2 1/3 stops. I rated it at 1600 and was mainly shooting at F2.8 and F4 which with the original scoopic lens from what Ive read is not a good choice. This will be an extremely low light test with Kodak 500T and the Scoopic lens. Using only street lamps and parking garage practicals. If the film turns out and wasnt ruined by Fedex then Ill break down the shots of how I metered and why I went with a 2 1/3rd push.

Im having it scanned at 2K with the Xena 5K dynamic Perf data scanner with a flat pass prores 444

Ill keep you updated.
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