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Can You Make a Kodak 16mm magazine accept single perf?


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#1 Elie Harriett

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:43 PM

An introduction:  Hi!!  I'm Elie in Mansfield, Ohio.  I'm not a filmmaker, but I have an interest in very old cameras.  I recently came upon a number of old double 8 and 16mm cameras and a few super 8's, and, in addition to the working with old still film cameras, I thought I'd try and learn to use some of the 8 and 16 cameras.  I'm experimenting with the 8's already, and I want to get the 16 working for a family vacation in a couple months.

 

My question: I was disheartened to see the 16's, which require the Kodak 16 magazine, work with double perf film only.  I'd been trying to see if there is some way to modify a magazine 16 to work with single perf only.  Google and any other searches keep bringing me back here.  I found some posts of people modifying cameras, but no one has mentioned modifying the magazines yet.  Has anyone been able to successfully modify a Magazine 16 canister to work with modern 16mm films?  Will it work?  How are the results?  Can you share the instructions?

 

Thanks in advance!


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#2 Frank Wylie

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 07:55 PM

Do yourself a favor and put the magazine camera on a shelf and admire it.  Seriously, finding magazines, reloading them...; not to mention modifying the camera to take single perforation film. 

 

Nightmare.  The magazine cameras are cheap and plentiful on Ebay for a reason...

 

Besides, modify a camera in a couple of weeks?  Not likely.

 

The least expensive route to shoot 100 foot loads would be to find a Bell & Howell 240 like this one:  https://www.ebay.com...zgAAOSw~y9ZCWnx or this one:  https://www.ebay.com...5.c100005.m1851

 

The only caveat is the ones with photocell automatic exposure can be non-functional  Stick to the manual version and get a light meter.

 

Great, simple camera with a bullet proof film gate and easy to use.  (Egads, watch the shipping costs on that site!  Crazy...)

 

Just my 2 cents...


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#3 Elie Harriett

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 12:54 AM

That’s an interesting idea. There’s a battery version and a non battery version? Can I manually adjust either without power?
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 05:26 AM

This was done in 1948....

 

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#5 Elie Harriett

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Posted 05 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

Holy cats!! That would be a yes, then! I may have to make an attempt!!
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#6 Michael Carter

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Posted 06 May 2018 - 08:56 PM

Turn the gate upside down, too,
the spring thing.
http://www.retrocine...zine-reloading/
I did one myself and was not clean enough and got a scratch.
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=0W6zgzQL3tc
7266 single perf new film was used

Edited by Michael Carter, 06 May 2018 - 09:07 PM.

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