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#1 Gareth Munden

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:41 AM

Hi , someone on the Forum just told me you can't Telecine a neg , you have to have a print done first . Thats not true is it ?
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:46 AM

Hi , someone on the Forum just told me you can't Telecine a neg , you have to have a print done first . Thats not true is it ?

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Absolutely untrue. Negative is the preferred source as it is the cleanest.

I do it all the time.

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#3 Gareth Munden

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:49 AM

Thanks mate , I knew he was wrong !!!! you can Telecine neg .
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:48 PM

Hi , someone on the Forum just told me you can't Telecine a neg , you have to have a print done first . Thats not true is it ?

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Hi,

In the early 1980's that might have been true but for about 18 years neg has been the way to go. A print has a far smaller dynamic range than a print. With Power windows over 10 stops of dynamic range can end up on tape.

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#5 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 01:40 PM

Early "film-chain" telecines used for TV from the 1950's through the 1970's required prints since they were essentially pointing a projector at a video camera, although some were more sophisticated than that. With the flying-spot scanner telecine introduction, people started to use negative and electronically reverse the image into a positive. Eventually they started to like the extra exposure information on negative although it took some TV shooters time to get used to it. Some 1980's TV shows still transferred from prints (low-con prints I believe) for the look, like "Hill Street Blues." Some were posted in film like a feature and then a transfer was made from a low-con print off of the cut negative.
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 05:57 PM

Were they talking about camera rolls, or a final cut negative? If it's the latter, then the splices are likely to present a problem on many telecines: it's normal to make an IP and transfer from that (or possibly a lo-con print: cheaper but no use for anything else).

But as everyone else has said, if you are transferring uncut material, then it's almost universal to go from the neg, and has been so for over 20 years.
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