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#1 jeremy edge

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 05:00 PM

Found this today:

http://translate.goo...e...3D&safe=off

http://translate.goo...e...3D&safe=off

Looks like we're seeing the rest of the fuji line being replaced.I thinkit's cool you have the option of getting the same stock in daylight or tungsten.
I'm sure kodak is going to answer with more stocks too ,so it's nothing but good news for shooting film!

Thought I'd let the cat out of the bag.
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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 06:36 PM

Fuji's updates are basically playing catch-up to Kodak's Vision-2 line-up, so Kodak has already updated all of their stocks except for EXR 50D, which they will probably leave alone. Fuji meanwhile has only updated the 500T and 400T stocks, with the 250T and 250D stocks next.

Fuji will also be releasing a version of Kodak Premier print stock called "XD" (extreme density?)
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 07:54 PM

Fuji's updates are basically playing catch-up to Kodak's Vision-2 line-up, so Kodak has already updated all of their stocks except for EXR 50D, which they will probably leave alone. Fuji meanwhile has only updated the 500T and 400T stocks, with the 250T and 250D stocks next.

Fuji will also be releasing a version of Kodak Premier print stock called "XD" (extreme density?)

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David you said awhile back you will be using Fuji for "The Astronaut Farmer".
If the new 250 is available in time are you thinking of using it?
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#4 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:28 PM

Kodak has more VISION2 stocks on the way, along with some unexpected but pleasant surprises. Still investing in film research and development for motion-picture products.
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Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:58 PM

Kodak has more VISION2 stocks on the way, along with some unexpected but pleasant surprises.  Still investing in film research and development for motion-picture products.

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Very interesting. Can you leak any additional information? Time Frames, etc.?
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#6 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:00 AM

I'll be using the old Fuji F-64D and F-250D and the new F-500T.

They are all pretty close in quality now, but the slower stocks still look a little nicer, a little snappier, higher in contrast. Since I am thinking of using some smoke on the day interiors, I figured the old F-250D was better than the new F-500T, which may look too flat in that situation. But grain-wise, the new F-500T and the old F-250D are very close.

If the new F-250D ends up being as good as the new Kodak 5205 250D, it will be a very nice stock indeed.

But I've always liked the 250 ASA Fuji stocks in general.
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#7 jeremy edge

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 01:17 AM

John's not talking!

I've already tried. but thats understandable when there's people like me who will google search just for kicks and leak out overseas info! lol

I'm sure Kodak will raise the bar very high and I personally am hoping for a medium speed film that has remarkably fine grain. A stock with snappy contrast and saturation AND finer grain would also be an innovation since there is no kodachrome anymore.It may be an impossibility in a neagtive film, but since we're dreaming here....I can wish.

The Eterna I shot did have low contrast and we kinda screwed things up by having some smoke lingering in the room in some shots.We were using smoke while shooting the xl2 which by the way...made it look A LOT like film.but when we whipped out the 16mm the smoke gave us mid-tone city and we had trouble punching through the contrast. We did a second "flat" transfer that came out good but its still gritty.

Shots we did on our second shoot without smoke were really nice though.

I read in your poduction notes you rated eterna 2/3 stop over. I got lights right dead on around the low 30s supposedly.I aimed for 1 stop over so I think I must have hit it hard.
Maybe too hard? Maybe the grain doesnt tighten up the way 7218 does.When I shot that 1 stop over....it had a smoother saturated look.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 05:55 AM

Very interesting. Can you leak any additional information? Time Frames, etc.?

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Time will tell, I won't. ;)
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 02:22 PM

John_P_Pytlak Posted Today, 02:28 AM

Kodak has more VISION2 stocks on the way, along with some unexpected but pleasant surprises. Still investing in film research and development for motion-picture products.

KODACHROME 25 AND SUPER 8 K40???????????????????? :rolleyes:

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:09 PM

John_P_Pytlak Posted Today, 02:28 AM

  Kodak has more VISION2 stocks on the way, along with some unexpected but pleasant surprises. Still investing in film research and development for motion-picture products.

KODACHROME 25 AND SUPER 8 K40???????????????????? :rolleyes:

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Sorry, a definite NO on any more KODACHROME films for Super-8.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:12 PM

Sorry, a definite NO on any more KODACHROME films for Super-8.

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How about 16mm ( 16mm k64????, i can dream cant i )
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:33 PM

How about 16mm  ( 16mm k64????, i can dream cant i )
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16mm KODACHROME is still available:

http://www.kodak.com...ws/super8.jhtml

Sales of KODACHROME 16 mm films will continue, unaffected by this announcement.


Q: Why are you discontinuing Kodachrome in the S8 format, yet maintaining it in 16mm format?
A: Kodachrome 16 mm represents an entirely different customer segment and processing dynamic. It has not encountered the same marketplace challenges as our Kodachrome S8 product line.


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#13 jeremy edge

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 04:20 PM

16mm KODACHROME is still available:

http://www.kodak.com...ws/super8.jhtml

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But it is being disconitnued as well right?

We have like what a year?
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