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#1 Tony_Beazley

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:11 PM

I have been thinking about doing this for the last 3 years. Has anyone
had the lasik operation? Would you recommend it?
I have been wearing glasses for 25 years now. It has its plus and
minuses. The glasses have saved my eyes from flying objects and such.

I got a yard stick out and after about 10 inches from my eyes it starts
to get really blurry.
Being a DP and messing with our eyes is a scary thing to think about.
I just wanted some thoughts from other photographers and DP's.

Thanks
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#2 Bob Hayes

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Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:29 PM

Try progressive lenses
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#3 Greg Gross

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:43 AM

I've been in medicine for about 35 years so I probably hear about the procedure
several times a week. If you go to a qualified,credible specialist I see know pro-
blem with it. They will screen you first to make sure that you are a candidate for
the procedure. I've been a professional photographer for over 20 years also,I've
always shot with Nikons and like their diopter systems. Likewise I have no problem
with my Sony PD-170. I'll be shooting my first film with a modified Arri SB so its go-
ing to be interesting how that works out. Its my mentor's camera and it has a CCD
viewfinder/video source. I know some nurses who have had it done for excellent re-
sults. Recently I heard you can have it done in Canada for $500.00 per eye. Here
in Harrisburg,PA its $3000.00 per eye by top specialist(he's good,real good!!).Some
times it doesn't take the first time and people have to have it done again. The people
I've talked to had no complaints,upon the second procedure their vision improved.
Its important to get a qualified experienced specialist.

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#4 Markus Rave

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 04:04 AM

Keep in mind it might not work out for you. Did you try contact lenses. I sometimes wear dailies and made good experience with them.
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#5 Daniel J. Ashley-Smith

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 08:37 AM

Contact lenses are great. Although, I'd choose laser surgery over it anyday.

1. I'm too young, 2. I can't afford it (I could get one eye done...)

Edited by Daniel J. Ashley-Smith, 24 August 2005 - 08:38 AM.

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#6 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 08:50 AM

Hi,

I think you're nuts to even consider it; the possibility of error might be minute, but the stakes could hardly be higher.

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#7 Daniel J. Ashley-Smith

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 10:23 AM

Hi,

I think you're nuts to even consider it; the possibility of error might be minute, but the stakes could hardly be higher.

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The possibilty of walking down the street and being killed is minute, but it could happen.
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#8 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 12:22 PM

You have to walk down the street every so often; you don't have to opt for eye surgery.
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#9 Mike Lary

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Posted 24 August 2005 - 06:06 PM

What possible reward, aside from convenience, would you gain by having surgery? The risk is being permanently handicapped and not being able to work in the field you love. Sure, there are plenty of success stories, but that doesn't change statistics or the reality of what it means to be one of the unlucky ones. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Posted 24 August 2005 - 06:55 PM

I was thinking about getting Lasik eye surgery since both my younger brothers had done it. Despite the conveniences, both mentioned their eyes were generally dryer and more sensitive to lights at night. I decided in the end, to stick to contacts.
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Posted 25 August 2005 - 02:38 AM

I wouldn't get laser eye surgery unless my vision was really quite bad (I'm actually up to -4.25 in the left eye, or about 20/450 in Snellen measurement), and I was involved in contact sports. Or swimming.

Although contacts were treating me well, they never seemed to produce as sharp an image as did my glasses. Optics are optics; a thin, flexible, stretchy piece of hydrophilic material simply cannot resolve the amount of detail our brain is able to interpret. I got a stronger prescription thinking this was the problem, but nothing really changed.

Having said that, I'm back to glasses. I don't mind seeing the world through a lens - that is, of course, how cinematographers work, anyway ;) .

And that $60 antireflective coating really does wonders.
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#12 s1eve

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 09:27 PM

I wouldn't get laser eye surgery unless my vision was really quite bad (I'm actually up to -4.25 in the left eye, or about 20/450 in Snellen measurement), and I was involved in contact sports. Or swimming.

Although contacts were treating me well, they never seemed to produce as sharp an image as did my glasses. Optics are optics; a thin, flexible, stretchy piece of hydrophilic material simply cannot resolve the amount of detail our brain is able to interpret. I got a stronger prescription thinking this was the problem, but nothing really changed.

Having said that, I'm back to glasses. I don't mind seeing the world through a lens - that is, of course, how cinematographers work, anyway  ;) .

And that $60 antireflective coating really does wonders.

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-4.25 isn't bad. That's what I have with both my eyes. I'm comfortable with contacts during the day, and evenings at home I just wear my glasses.
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#13 Rik Andino

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 09:39 PM

I have been thinking about doing this for the last 3 years. Has anyone
had the lasik operation? Would you recommend it?
I have been wearing glasses for 25 years now. It has its plus and
minuses. The glasses have saved my eyes from flying objects and such.

Thanks
Tony B

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Well it's nice to know you get your medical advice from medical professionals. :)

Maybe you should go and talk with a respected Optometrist you trust...
They'll be able to properly answer your question.
With none of the my brother's cousin says that this and that BS...

Would you listen to cinematography advice from a pharmacist?
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#14 timHealy

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:07 AM

since there are three catagories for people in the eye care industry (well at least here in the US) let me ask this question for clarification. When discussing surgery, an optometrist may have some advice but shouldn't one go see an ophthalmologist for advice on corrective surgery? Perhaps one that can give you the straight facts without trying to sell you lasik or lasek?

an optician is a person who makes eyes glasses.
an optometrist is a person who can examine the eyes for defects and prescribe corrective lenses.
an ophthalmologist is a person who can do surgery on your eyes.

Thanks

Tim
 

 

Well it's nice to know you get your medical advice from medical professionals.  :)

Maybe you should go and talk with a respected Optometrist you trust...
They'll be able to properly answer your question.
With none of the my brother's cousin says that this and that BS...

Would you listen to cinematography advice from a pharmacist?

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#15 Mike Lary

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 09:49 AM

The people who perform Lasik operations are called eye surgeons.

Here's a sight that details the process and risks.
http://www.allaboutv.../visionsurgery/

Notice they imply complications are very uncommon, but use vagueries (if, usually, very rare) in lieu of statistical data.

The technology used in eye surgery has changed over the years, which supposedly means it's more refined and more effective, but it also means there hasn't been enough time to accurately assess long term effects.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 11:08 AM

The people who perform Lasik operations are called eye surgeons.

Here's a sight that details the process and risks.
http://www.allaboutv.../visionsurgery/

Notice they imply complications are very uncommon, but use vagueries (if, usually, very rare) in lieu of statistical data.

The technology used in eye surgery has changed over the years, which supposedly means it's more refined and more effective, but it also means there hasn't been enough time to accurately assess long term effects.

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Hi,

After working on a film about Lasik, I got very interested in the latest hi tech eye surgery. However after talking to an eye surgreon he talked me out of it, not suitable for a DP!

Stephen Williams DP

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#17 Marty Hamrick

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:51 PM

Hi,

After working on a film about Lasik, I got very interested in the latest hi tech eye surgery. However after talking to an eye surgreon he talked me out of it, not suitable for a DP!

Stephen Williams DP

www.stephenw.com

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I have heard that the surgery isn't permanent.That after about 5 to 7 years your astigmatism comes back and you can't wear contacts after that.I have read that that is not the case.Anyone know the real deal on this?
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#18 Greg Gross

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 06:24 PM

Its very important that one be screened by the physician to determine if they
are a candidate for the laser procedure. Sounds like the DP above was told by
the physician that he should not have procedure performed. Certain people are
not candidates for the procedure and this is why a "good specialist,trained prop-
erly,expert,has done a lot of procedures";will do a screen to rule out doing people
who it shoud not be performed on. Generally your physician should be able to re-
fer you to a competent eye specialist.

Greg Gross
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#19 Tony_Beazley

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 11:20 PM

I understand what everyone has said and I do appreciate the feedback.
Well my glasses are always fogging up bad and they just seem to get in
the way alot. And they always get scratched no matter how much of that
no-scratch stufff they put on them.
Really if I take them off I am totally blind!!! I cannot see a persons face
passed 6 ft. away.
If I drop something small on the floor and if I'm having a "bad" eyesight day
(some are better than others) and I don't have my glasses on I have to actually
get down knee high to the floor to see it.
It sucks!!! And I am a DP and still photographer. AARRGGHH
I'm starting to feel like Mr. Magoo.
I just wanted to see what all you guys thought about it. I wll be going to a real
eye doctor(opthamologist) to get a check up. Maybe I will try contacts again.
The quest continues.....
Thanks for all the post on the subject.

Thanks

Tony B
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#20 Matt Pacini

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 10:25 AM

"...  If you go to a qualified,credible specialist I see know pro-
blem with it. ..."
Greg Gross

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I'm always hearing this about having medical procedures done, but seriously, how in the world does a "regular person" know this?
Check for his license on the wall? Ask for references?
What questions would someone ask a doctor to know this, and wouldn't he be offended, or if he's NOT qualified, he's just going to tell you things to make you think he is, right?
I'm just curious. To me, it seems like anyone who's not in the medical field has no way to know if someone is qualified or not.
Illuminate us...

MP
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