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#1 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 02:45 AM

Hello everyone,
I recently got a cinematography book which showed various DP's lighting set-ups and stills from the resulting shoot. I found that although there were many VERY elabourate lighting set-ups, my favourite was one by Jordan Cronenweth in which he only used a single fresnel 10K and some bounce boards. So does anyone have any examples of shots were they used only ONE light source (bounce boards etc doesn't count of course) or only used existing lights (without changing bulbs etc.).
Here's one of mine: I actually only used the existing shop signs and some foamcore bounce for this shot (Regular 16mm, 7279-Kodak 500T, pushed one stop):shop_kiss_copy.jpg

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#2 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 02:49 AM

Here's another shot from the same set-up:NURTURE_CU_GIRL_copy.jpg

Edited by Tomas Haas, 03 September 2005 - 02:53 AM.

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#3 Ype Poortinga

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:39 AM

Here's a setup I shot 2 weeks ago

It's shot on super16 vision2 500t

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A par-can with a spot bulb hits a bounce-board with silverbounce on te right side, the fill on her face is coming from a white bounce-board on te left site.
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#4 Michael Morlan

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:35 PM

Here's some odds & ends from various projects:

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1K Baby over roofline to create positive/negative space - XL-1s

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750w Ellipsoidal framed to create a square of bounce on white ceiling simulating flouros - dvx-100a @ 24p - 200ASA

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A view of that light setup

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Shot on shadowed side of street with sun bouncing from office tower windows for key, street bounce and sky dome for fill. The sun's a light, right? :D - XL-1s - 400ASA

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Baby 1K + 1/4 CTB on left plus practicals everywhere else, including floor-to-ceiling luminescent wall on right. - XL-2 - 400ASA

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All practicals - luminescent wall practical as key on left. - XL-2 - 400ASA

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Practical two-tube flouros on stair landings, one with .3ND - XL-2 - 400ASA

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Practicals plus 250w pro-light bouncing around entry way. By sheer luck there was a blue bulb in the porch light for the location where the antagonist is first introduced, creating this very creepy feeling. I just went with it. - JVC GY-DV500 - 800ASA

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300w tweenie through diamond-pattern flouro light cover + silver bounce at left - Sony HVR-Z1U 125ASA

One of my cheap tricks, shooting micro-budget shorts with sensitive cameras, is to scout for locations with well designed architectural lighting - a coffee shop with 12volt track lighting - an elevator lobby with a floor-to-ceiling luminescent panal. These existing practicals take care of 90% of my lighting task. I'll add a light or bounce to finish the job.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 10:06 PM

Hello everyone,
I recently got a cinematography book which showed various DP's lighting set-ups and stills from the resulting shoot. I found that although there were many VERY elabourate lighting set-ups, my favourite was one by Jordan Cronenweth in which he only used a single fresnel 10K and some bounce boards. So does anyone have any examples of shots were they used only ONE light source (bounce boards etc doesn't count of course) or only used existing lights (without changing bulbs etc.).
Here's one of mine: I actually only used the existing shop signs and some foamcore bounce for this shot (Regular 16mm, 7279-Kodak 500T, pushed one stop):shop_kiss_copy.jpg

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 10:08 PM

Hello everyone,
I recently got a cinematography book which showed various DP's lighting set-ups and stills from the resulting shoot. I found that although there were many VERY elabourate lighting set-ups, my favourite was one by Jordan Cronenweth in which he only used a single fresnel 10K and some bounce boards. So does anyone have any examples of shots were they used only ONE light source (bounce boards etc doesn't count of course) or only used existing lights (without changing bulbs etc.).
Here's one of mine: I actually only used the existing shop signs and some foamcore bounce for this shot (Regular 16mm, 7279-Kodak 500T, pushed one stop):shop_kiss_copy.jpg

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see what this guy does with one light ,... he has key, Fill, Background and Edge on the face www.lightextreme.com link "Light"
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#7 Oli Soravia

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 01:23 PM

Unfortunately I don`t have an example right on this notebook, but I can tell you, the rule of most of my own lighting, is simplicity, which means, I do most shots with one key and some bounce cards (maybe some small unit for eyelight or fill for the faces - chimera ball, kinoflo 30, both on dimmer). In reality there is one sun, unless you`re inside a room with practicals etc...whatever scene you need to light, as far as I concern, it should never appear as a lit scene.
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Posted 04 September 2005 - 02:48 PM

Hello Mr. Haas,
I wonder if you could you tell me what is the name of the book you are talking about. I'm a student from Eastern Europe and some books about lighting would really help me in my education. Here, in my country there's no any literature about cinematography at all.

Thank You in advance :)
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#9 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 04 September 2005 - 04:06 PM

Hello Mr. Haas,
I wonder if you could you tell me what is the name of the book you are talking about. I'm a student from Eastern Europe and some books about lighting would really help me in my education.  Here, in my country there's no any literature about cinematography at all.

Thank You in advance  :)

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Hello,
Cincilinci, there are many good books about lighting, I am not sure were exactly you are located but it may be possible for you to order them online at amazon.com or a similar type of site that caters to your area. The Book I reffered to in my original post is called: "Reflections", it's a good book but to be honest I don't think it's the most informative for a film student, you would probably be better off getting a book about lighting that will give you the practical/technical info you need when you first start getting on set (reflections just shows a few ways that well known DP's have dealt with certain set-ups), I would reckomend for you: Blain Brown's "Motion picture and video lighting" and Harry C. Box's "Set Lighting technician's Handbook". These will give you the basic knowledge you need to run lights and use grip equipment in a safe manner, then you can start to experiment with many different lighting techniques and decide what best suites your tastes/needs.
Cheers.

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#10 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 08 September 2005 - 04:20 PM

Sometimes I use one light, but I put anything on it!
Cinefoil, diffusion and sometimes pieces of different colour gels, to split the colour into two different sourses (of different colour)
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#11 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 03:10 AM

Sometimes I use one light, but I put anything on it!
Cinefoil, diffusion and sometimes pieces of different colour gels, to split the colour into two different sourses (of different colour)
Dimitrios

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Hello,
Do you have any examples of were you used this technique to show us?
Here's one more of mine:widow_maker_still_copy.jpg
I shot this on the F900 with a 40mm Digiprime (if I remember correctly)
I used only existing flouresent lighting fixtures (from above the mirror), which I gelled and flagged off (from directly hitting her face from the front) to my taste,
I also used a small piece of foamcore covered with aluminium foil bounced into her face from below.
Cheers.
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#12 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 03:17 AM

Hello,
Here's another example:
I used a 2k tungsten mole beam projector to simulate sunlight on 35mm Reala 500D (I used Zeiss super-speeds):
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Here's a shot from the same short using only existing sunlight:
markings_phone_copy.jpg
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#13 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 09 September 2005 - 05:13 PM

Hello,
Do you have any examples of were you used this technique to show us?
Here's one more of mine:widow_maker_still_copy.jpg
I shot this on the F900 with a 40mm Digiprime (if I remember correctly)
I used only existing flouresent lighting fixtures (from above the mirror), which I gelled and flagged off (from directly hitting her face from the front) to my taste,
I also used a small piece of foamcore covered with aluminium foil bounced into her face from below.
Cheers.

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Sorry m8,
I don't, but I can remember one shot with a classical guitar player , I use one 1k fresnel with 250 diffusion for him and a 1/2 cto for his guitar, splited on the same light. Another thing I did ones for a feature film is that I bounced half of an 2,5 HMI fresnel on three broken mirror pieces, that were lighting different parts of the set , while the half of it was used with Full CTB on the ceiling, to give an ambient night light impression. this shot was with Kodak 7245 (ASA 50) daylight.
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#14 Derek Leverette

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 05:02 PM

Hello,
Do you have any examples of were you used this technique to show us?
Here's one more of mine:widow_maker_still_copy.jpg
I shot this on the F900 with a 40mm Digiprime (if I remember correctly)
I used only existing flouresent lighting fixtures (from above the mirror), which I gelled and flagged off (from directly hitting her face from the front) to my taste,
I also used a small piece of foamcore covered with aluminium foil bounced into her face from below.
Cheers.

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I am very new to lighting techniques so forgive the dumb question: How do you make flourescent light look like that? It reminds me of the Matrix, Neo's interrogation scene. I love that look. Is it the gels?
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#15 Tomas Koolhaas

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 10:03 PM

I am very new to lighting techniques so forgive the dumb question: How do you make flourescent light look like that? It reminds me of the Matrix, Neo's interrogation scene. I love that look.  Is it the gels?

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Hello Derek,
That's not a dumb question at all, I can't speak on how the matrix achieved their look but I can tell you about how I achieved the look in this still ( I think the similarities are that the matrix used flourescents with a greenish tint from above, as did I for this shot, also I desaturated this image a bit in post and crushed the blacks a little in camera - I think they may have done a bleach-bypass type process on the matrix which has a similar affect). For this image I had a set of existing flourescents that were above the mirrors facing straight downwards, what I did was gel these flourescents with (if I remeber corectly) a 1/2 and 1/4 plus green gel (3/4 in total), and also with a 1/4 yellow gel. Then I used Duvatyn (Blacking out material) to cover any light that was spilling on places I didn't want it to. For example I skirted the flourescents so that they didn't hit the actress's face, and to keep them off the wall in the background of the shot, but let them be hot on the wall closest to camera (I did the latter to create depth-keeping the background darker than the highlights on the foreground walls and the actress, thus creating more contrast/depth). To light the actress's face I used a small foamcore board covered in aluminium foil to bounce the light from the flourescent lights back up into her face, this board was placed at a low angle below her face on a sink at the bottom of the mirror closest to her.
If you have any more questions, ask away.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 06:25 AM

i already posted these in another thread, but since you asked for more one light setups and i'm kind of proud of these, here goes:

a blonde through diffusion over the window.
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a blonde bounced off foamcore then through diffusion. i just learned that this is called a book light. :-) the walls are white providing ambient fill.
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#17 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 06:34 AM

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Hello,
Do you have any examples of were you used this technique to show us?
Here's one more of mine:widow_maker_still_copy.jpg
I shot this on the F900 with a 40mm Digiprime (if I remember correctly)
I used only existing flouresent lighting fixtures (from above the mirror), which I gelled and flagged off (from directly hitting her face from the front) to my taste,
I also used a small piece of foamcore covered with aluminium foil bounced into her face from below.
Cheers.

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Actually you want a setup with a single fixture or a single light source.?
Cause bounching, means that you are using two light sources.
Here is one of mine that I ve found sry the grab isn't so good and blurs.
It is a 2,5 Kw cinepar thru 4x4 m diffusion from the left side, the right side is illuminated by a wall near.
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#18 Jonathan Spear

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 08:09 AM

Dimitrios,

Got any links to your commercials (uncompressed/motion)? I like the pilot shots and I'm curious to see your work.

Cheers,
Jonathan
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#19 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 08:15 AM

Dimitrios,

      Got any links to your commercials (uncompressed/motion)? I like the pilot shots and I'm curious to see your work.

Cheers,
Jonathan

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Well , I can try email you some, but believe me I am not so good at this, even my dvd show reel is a bit compressed. I don't know what is the best compression/codec ''quality wise''.
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Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:51 AM

even my dvd show reel is a bit compressed. I don't know what is the best compression/codec ''quality wise''.
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Sorenson 3 is still kind of the standard, even though there's much better things out there. For decent quality I'd probably go with 400 kilobits video and 48 kilobits audio at 320 x 240 pixels. Sorenson Squeeze or Media Cleaner are great apps for this. The best I've seen so far is the brand new On2 compressor that's part of Flash 8; videos look really good even at less than 100 kbs!
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