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#1 Austin Schmidt

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:21 PM

Though I'm sure this effect has been done before, it was the first time I had seen it while watching the new Missy Elliot's "Teary Eyed" music video. I am referring to the shots (mostly the street night exterior of the car driving) where the image looks clean and then white smears run vertically from the frame originating from the hot spots and then disappear to a clean image again. It looks as though it is a miss-timed shutter effect however I didn't know it was possible to miss-time and then correct the shutter timing in the middle of the shot (almost like ramping speed or something). Maybe I'm way off and that is not how they did it, or perhaps it's a digital fx from post. Regardless, does anyone have any insight on how this was accomplished whether it was in-camera or a post?

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#2 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:24 PM

Though I'm sure this effect has been done before, it was the first time I had seen it while watching the new Missy Elliot's "Teary Eyed" music video. I am referring to the shots (mostly the street night exterior of the car driving) where the image looks clean and then white smears run vertically from the frame originating from the hot spots and then disappear to a clean image again. It looks as though it is a miss-timed shutter effect however I didn't know it was possible to miss-time and then correct the shutter timing in the middle of the shot (almost like ramping speed or something). Maybe I'm way off and that is not how they did it, or perhaps it's a digital fx from post. Regardless, does anyone have any insight on how this was accomplished whether it was in-camera or a post?

Sorry, I haven't seen that video, but for me this sounds like an old ccd camera's smear problem, it was very common and it needed no extra effort, as when the camera was pointing a bright source was doing this.
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#3 oscar perez

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:34 PM

Ive heard it was in camera and a simple switch of a device its also seen in the new TWISTA "Girl Tonite" video.

Sorry, I haven't seen that video, but for me this sounds like an old ccd camera's smear problem, it was very common and it needed no extra effort, as when the camera was pointing a bright source was doing this.
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#4 Michael Nash

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 05:05 PM

I haven't seen the video, but assuming it's shot on film then this effect is created by the camera's shutter being thrown out of phase with the film movement. The fact that the effect comes in and out mid-shot suggests that the shutter phase is controlled (not just mechanically set). I beleive the Panavision Millennium is one of the few cameras that allows you to control this electronically. Maybe a newer version of the Arri 435 or perhaps an Arricam can do it as well, I'm not sure.
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#5 Adam Frisch FSF

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 05:20 PM

I'm sure you can do it somehow on the 435 probably. They've got tons of secret service menus that can run the shutter since it's motion controlled independently from the movement on that camera. Or they could have mistimed the shutter and then done a shutter angle ramp - i.e. creating no streaking when the shutter is closed down but reaching the mistimed section fully open.

Or. It could all have been done in post.... :blink:
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#6 Boone Hudgins

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 08:29 PM

Since even words on the screen had the streaking effect, I'm guessing it might have been done in post.
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#7 Nico Hardy

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 12:26 PM

Hello,
Haven't seen the video myself, but it sound like a "time shifting box" was used on ARRI435.
A very simple gadget, it let's you play with the film advance / shutter motors.
Check the ARRI site for info.

cheers,
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#8 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:44 AM

Though I'm sure this effect has been done before, it was the first time I had seen it while watching the new Missy Elliot's "Teary Eyed" music video. I am referring to the shots (mostly the street night exterior of the car driving) where the image looks clean and then white smears run vertically from the frame originating from the hot spots and then disappear to a clean image again. It looks as though it is a miss-timed shutter effect however I didn't know it was possible to miss-time and then correct the shutter timing in the middle of the shot (almost like ramping speed or something). Maybe I'm way off and that is not how they did it, or perhaps it's a digital fx from post. Regardless, does anyone have any insight on how this was accomplished whether it was in-camera or a post?



Is it this what u were talkin about?
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#9 Max Jacoby

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:26 AM

No, these pictures obviously show a flare from a light just out of frame.

What he was talking about is that one desynchronizes the shutter from the pull down movement of the film, so that the film moves while the shutter is still partly open, making the highlights in the frame streak. I gather the first time this effect was used (on puropse that is) was on 'Full Metal Jacket' for the scene at the very end, when the sniper turns around to shoot Joker. There one can clearly see the streaking on the flames behind her.
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#10 Boone Hudgins

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:36 AM

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#11 Ram Shani

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 02:21 AM

hi

i think like most of effects today this one done in post

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#12 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:22 AM

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Thank u Boone,
Yes that's an ansynchronised shuter.It just that I couldn't understand what excactly he wanted by his description, now is more clear.
By the way can I ask something? How can u make the images appear in the posts and not as a thumbnail?
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#13 Boone Hudgins

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:27 AM

I posted it on a free photo site, photobucket.com, and then used the IMG tag to get it on here.
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#14 Jann Doeppert

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 03:35 PM

Use Trapcode's Starglow plugin to create this effect in post
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#15 Luke Prendergast

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 03:42 PM

Or Minimax in After Effects.
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