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AAton Super 16 , or 35 Konvas-Automat .?


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#1 ivan delenda

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 12:14 PM

hello,
please i need an advice,
is it better to buy a AAton super 16 , then blow up to 35 , or to buy a Konvas-Automat camera made in Russia in 1979.
and what about the stock and labs , the difference between 16 and 35 is it that huge ??

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#2 Christian Appelt

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 09:45 AM

Two very different types of camera.

The Konvas is a MOS camera (not silent running, sound will probably have to be dubbed).
AƤton cameras are silent and very good for S16-to-35mm blowups.

35mm negative printed to 35mm release (or via interpos/internegative) will look best. If you have a high shooting ratio (shot film compared to used footage), 35mm may be a huge cost factor. So it depends on the type of film you are doing.
On the other side, going 35mm you will save money because you skip the optical or DI blowup process. With S-16 for blowup, use of high speed stocks needs to be restricted if you want maximum blowup quality. In 35mm, the larger image area makes this less of a problem.

A Konvas 400ft./120meter mag will run about 4 and a half minutes. Then you can change very quickly thanks to the mag type, but make sure you have enough mags.
A 400ft. roll of S-16 will run twice as long, which may be important if you are doing documentary type of work or extremely long takes.

If you get a Konvas, try to get the 2M model with the single lens mount and enough large mags. Smaller mags take only about 50 meters (on Kodak cores), but they are great for shooting handheld and in cars and other restricted places.
Expect to have any Konvas thoroughly serviced and tested, including the mags.

Edited by Christian Appelt, 14 October 2005 - 09:48 AM.

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#3 ivan delenda

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:45 PM

thank you Christian ,,,

very surralist for me, you can buy a konvas lomo lens for 2O dollars,,,
in one hand , i find that fantastic, but in other hand , what is that lens "mint" conditions for 20 box ?
any one knows about LOMOS ?

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#4 Nate Downes

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 09:11 PM

Lomos are very sharp in my experience. (then again, I only own one) Where did you find one for $20 tho? I wouldn't mind owning another one at that price.
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#5 ivan delenda

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Posted 16 October 2005 - 01:25 PM

Hello Downix,,,
thanks for the advice,,,
the LOMO 20 $ lens went to my collection :)it was in a shop in Paris.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 05:17 PM

I bought spherical Lomo lenses (f2) for as little as US$ 50, and they were like new and compare well with footage shot with my 1980s Zeiss lenses. Russian optics were always excellent, so expect older Lomo lenses to perform similar to Western lenses made during the same period.

Edited by Christian Appelt, 16 October 2005 - 05:18 PM.

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#7 ivan delenda

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Posted 16 October 2005 - 06:15 PM

great,,,
i ll buy two Konvas 2m with some lomo speed lenses , and go for my shoot,,,
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