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#1 Charles Haine

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 03:58 PM

I'm looking to use a flamebar on my next shoot to create the heatwave effect made most famous on raging bull, where they used cans of sterno.

I'm happy to use cans of sterno, but I hear there is something called a Flamebar. Is this something I can rent (I can't seem to find it for rent anywhere, is why I ask), or something an FX person would custom built themselves, and thus something I should think about building?

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#2 Tim Tyler

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:38 PM

Flame bars are pipes that allow controllable flames on set. They're commonly used in campfire shots (under logs) and behind a window sill to simulate a house fire.

Sterno might be better for creating heat waves since they're smaller and produce hardly any flame. You can position them pretty close to the lens without fear of toasting your camera.
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#3 Joseph White

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:43 PM

hey chuck!
i actually just remembered i used sterno cans on a shot in a movie and found it was only useful in a zero-wind environment. if the air is still, you'll see the effect - have to get way close to the lens though. we had it up against a clairmont anamorphic prime (50mm i think) and it worked pretty well.
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#4 Michael Nash

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:34 AM

The next step up in size from a can of Sterno is a Coleman camping lantern. As with the sterno, you need a shade or "chimney" to keep the flame from blowing out.

A flamebar is probably overkill for what you're trying to do, but it would work. It's essentially just a pipe with vent holes cut in it, hooked up via tubing to a propane canister. Usually effects guys have them, so don't try building it yourself!
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