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#1 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 10:36 AM

The new 50D film is being launched today. Technical data and other information is on the Kodak website:

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Get true color, fine detail, and incredibly sharp images ? even in high contrast daylight.
KODAK VISION2 50D Color Negative Film 5201 / 7201 is a low-speed daylight film with an expansive dynamic range that delivers more detail in shadow areas ? even in high contrast situations. Advances in grain and sharpness ? found in all VISION2 Films ? make it ideal for recorder output and provide an ultra-clean, detailed image in any lighting condition.


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#2 A.Oliver

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 01:32 PM

Hi, cannot download the technical data, any problem kodaks end or is it my steam driven pooter?
Available in the UK yet?
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Posted 18 October 2005 - 03:52 PM

That looks like a very nice stock.

I must use it soon...

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#4 John Mastrogiacomo

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 04:09 PM

Hi, cannot download the technical data, any problem kodaks end or is it my steam driven pooter?
Available in the UK yet?
Andy


I can't download it either. :(
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#5 Roderick Brydon

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

Try this...

http://www.kodak.com...tive/5201.jhtml

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 04:37 PM

Try this...

http://www.kodak.com...tive/5201.jhtml

-Roderick


still no good :(
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Posted 18 October 2005 - 04:45 PM

Well, here's an example of the exposure data for those of you who can't get the link to work...

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Specs:

Lens: 85 mm Zeiss Ultra Prime

Filter: Clear

Aperture: T5.6

Incident Light Levels Key = 800 fc

Color temperature = 5460K
Stop notations listed on the photo are reflected-light readings.

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#8 A.Oliver

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 05:01 PM

Hi, thanks for that, but i still can't see the MTF curve. :(
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#9 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 08:07 PM

Hi, thanks for that, but i still can't see the MTF curve. :(


I'll check with our webmaster tomorrow. Maybe the technical data part is not uploaded yet. The other links are working fine on my home computer.
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#10 Dimitrios Koukas

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 12:54 AM

Well, here's an example of the exposure data for those of you who can't get the link to work...

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Specs:

-Roderick

Very nice,
A new great stock for blow-ups!!
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:57 AM

So his face is 5 stops under?

Hum...

I'm staying away from this emulsion
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#12 John Mastrogiacomo

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 03:35 AM

So his face is 5 stops under?

Hum...

I'm staying away from this emulsion


That is a mistake. I hope they fix it in the website. It is probably 1 stop over. :)
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 10:50 AM

That is a mistake. I hope they fix it in the website. It is probably 1 stop over. :)


Maybe not, his face is slightly in shadow but his white T probably reflects much more of the light, you can see most of the area around the girl appears to be more in the light.

Could be wrong.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 11:49 AM

i don't think his cheek is darker than the girl's shirt (at #2)! Maybe the #1 was supposed to be on the back of his hair? those pesky little number dots, always sliding around...

that looks like a veerrrry nice new stock!
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#15 Roderick Brydon

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 01:33 PM

Technical data is up!

http://www.kodak.com...4.4.4.4.4&lc=en

-Roderick

Edited by Roderick Brydon, 19 October 2005 - 01:34 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:48 PM

Its always great when Kodak releases a new stock and this one looks great.

With grain so minimal on all the Vision2 stocks, in what situations would the 50D be better than the 250D? And wouldn't that advantage be barely noticable in the final image?
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#17 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 02:59 PM

That is a mistake. I hope they fix it in the website. It is probably 1 stop over. :)


Yes, it was a typo, that our webmaster will correct once he has a new graphic file generated. It is NOT -5.0 stops, but only -0.5 stops.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 04:38 PM

John,
does this mean that Kodak will soon be dumping exr 5245? i certainly hope not.... 5201 looks really nice, but for situations where you don't want a lot of latitude and where more saturated colors are apropriate the 5245 is always nice.
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#19 John Pytlak RIP

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Posted 19 October 2005 - 07:38 PM

John,
does this mean that Kodak will soon be dumping exr 5245? i certainly hope not.... 5201 looks really nice, but for situations where you don't want a lot of latitude and where more saturated colors are apropriate the 5245 is always nice.
-Joe


No decision about 5245 that I'm aware of. It will likely depend on sustained sales volumes, and how well 5201 is accepted. As you know, 5279 is still available, nearly three years after 5218 was introduced.
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Posted 19 October 2005 - 09:37 PM

John: Are the MTF charts for 01 correct?
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