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#1 Brian Rose

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:12 AM

How does fuju 16mm compare to kodak 16mm? More specifically, Exr 50d, versus Fuji's 64?
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#2 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 10:47 AM

Well, EXR 50D is sort of unique amoung Kodak stocks, so it is not indicative. It is much snappier, sharper, saturated, finer-grained, and contrastier than Fuji F-64D. In 16mm, this is even more obvious. F-64D has a more natural contrast and saturation, and is softer.

In general, the Kodak stocks have more edge-sharpness than the Fuji stocks. Also, even though the new Kodak Vision-2 line is lower in contrast and saturation than the previous Vision generation, the new Fuji Eterna line-up that is coming out now is even lower in contrast and saturation (and therefore perceived sharpness) than the Kodak Vision-2 line.

I like Fuji in 35mm, but in 16mm, I tend to stick to Kodak because of the greater sharpness.

But if you're just talking about EXR 50D versus F-64D, EXR 50D is unique among all the color negative stocks for its look, even compared to other Kodak stocks.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 11:44 AM

Thank you very much for your help. Perhaps I can explain why I was comparing 50D to 64. I am doing some filming this weekend at a cross country meet, and I wanted to use the slowest film possible. I've shot 50D before and positively loved it. However, my processor (Cinelab out of MA), is offering a package deal where I can get 400ft of Fuji stock, process and best-light telecine, for $180.00. Hence, I was curious if there was a great enough difference between 50D and 64 (which I've never used) to warrant my avoiding this deal and sticking with Kodak.
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#4 Stephen Williams

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 12:22 PM

However, my processor (Cinelab out of MA), is offering a package deal where I can get 400ft of Fuji stock, process and best-light telecine, for $180.00. Hence, I was curious if there was a great enough difference between 50D and 64 (which I've never used) to warrant my avoiding this deal and sticking with Kodak.
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Hi,

Sounds like a good reason for f64D!

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:10 PM

F-64D looks nice on its own; it just suffers in comparison to Kodak EXR 50D, like most stocks do. Probably the new 5201 Vision-2 50D looks closer to F-64D in terms of contrast. If you're going to be shooting faces in harsh light, you may prefer F-64D over EXR 50D, but if you are shooting wide landscape shots or in softer daylight, you'll probably prefer the snap & sharpness of EXR 50D.
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#6 Stephen Williams

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 01:49 PM

F-64D looks nice on its own; it just suffers in comparison to Kodak EXR 50D, like most stocks do. Probably the new 5201 Vision-2 50D looks closer to F-64D in terms of contrast. If you're going to be shooting faces in harsh light, you may prefer F-64D over EXR 50D, but if you are shooting wide landscape shots or in softer daylight, you'll probably prefer the snap & sharpness of EXR 50D.


Hi,

I first started using F64D about 6 years ago because Kodak in Switzerland had no EXR 50D in stock! It was the first time I ever shot with Fuji, and was very happy with the results.

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