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#1 hippy

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 03:43 PM

I have recently bought an arri 16 s/b camera and would like to know how to load it when I have tried
to load a roll of 400ft kodak vision 2 film into the 400ft mag I can't work out how to thread the film
as described in the instruction manuel so the emulsion side of the film is facing the lens the only way
I can managed it is when the dull non shiney side of the film is facing the lens when loaded.

If anyone could help me with this I would be very grateful

Thank You hippy
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#2 Andy Sparaco SOC

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 04:08 PM

I have recently bought an arri 16 s/b camera and would like to know how to load it when I have tried
to load a roll of 400ft kodak vision 2 film into the 400ft mag I can't work out how to thread the film
as described in the instruction manuel so the emulsion side of the film is facing the lens the only way
I can managed it is when the dull non shiney side of the film is facing the lens when loaded.

If anyone could help me with this I would be very grateful

Thank You hippy



The Film should be on the spindle pointing at the front of the camera. You want to have the film coming off the "right side" of the roll once on the mag spindle. It then feeds out of the light trap facing toward the front of the camera. There is a notch at the top of the mag, feed the film out until it touches the notch , this established the correct loop load it thru the rear light trap and attach to the core or collapsical core.
At this point the emulsion side loop should be facing with the emulsion toward the outside. You are ready to load onto the camera
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 04:39 PM

It's actually been a long time since I loaded a film camera (thanks to having camera assistants) but I believe that the dull, non-shiney side IS the emulsion side.
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#4 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 06:08 PM

Right, David !

Hippy, there is a "brown, non shiny" side, that is the emulsion side. The other one is black and shiny.

Usually, the roll is emulsion inside, the "anti glare/ rim jet", black and shinny, outside.

If you lick a finger and then touch the emulsion side, it will stick, on the other side, it will slip

Edited by laurent.a, 06 November 2005 - 06:09 PM.

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#5 Laurent Andrieux

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Posted 06 November 2005 - 06:19 PM

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 11:20 AM

There is a notch at the top of the mag, feed the film out until it touches the notch ,


16S mag does not have a notch IIRC. (I have an "S" but no mags currently).

(notch is for gear driven mags, 16M, 16BL, 2C, III etc).

Give yourself a bit more than enough to thread with, tighten (take up slack) with the spindle wheels.

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 05:32 PM

Sam, Asparaco is right, for what is about the 400' load magazines, ther is a notch, but...

You are right as well, because it's useless, the loop is not "stopped" in the magazine anyway... I guess these magazines can be used on other camera models, I don't know, but the notch is useless, as far as I can recall...

(third thing I should check when going to my garage...)
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#8 Andy Sparaco SOC

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Posted 07 November 2005 - 07:23 PM

16S mag does not have a notch IIRC. (I have an "S" but no mags currently).

(notch is for gear driven mags, 16M, 16BL, 2C, III etc).

Give yourself a bit more than enough to thread with, tighten (take up slack) with the spindle wheels.

-Sam


I think it is actually a "bar" across the edge not a notch. There may a difference from earlier flat lid to the later turtle back style.

I may be thinking of the 2C mags. In any case the overall info for loading was correct
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 07:28 PM

I think it is actually a "bar" across the edge not a notch.


That's right ! (just found the translation for "notch")
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Posted 08 November 2005 - 12:16 PM

Yeah but what's important is how you form the loops in the camera, it's not a preset loop like the gear driven mags.

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